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  • in reply to: interlock cause car accident #176596821
    TangoCharly69
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    Dear Karen,

    This is indeed a very sad story.

    At the time of installation they should have told your daughter that there is a grace period of X minutes for the rolling re-test.
    I guess they missed it.

    In my case (Drager-XT, NJ), the grace period is 5 minutes.
    I was shown a video at the time of installation which said that, when the IID asks for a rolling re-test, you should pull over to the side within 5 mins and take the test.
    But the technician told me that you can take the re-test while driving.
    They put that part (pull over) in the video just for liability purposes.

    Till this date (4 months into the IID), I’ve never pulled over to the side even once.
    I’ve been driving on the local roads, highways, interstate, everywhere without any problems.

    But just because I had no problems does not mean anything.
    Any body can get into an accident because the rolling re-test puts you in a panic mode.
    You have to typically give 3-4 tests per hour of driving.

    IMO they should just get rid of the re-tests.
    Instead just test before you start the car and test again when you turn off the ignition.
    But the law makers will argue that you will get totally drunk at a bar, have your hot girlfriend blow into it,
    then you’ll drive 25 miles (speeding & swerving) to your home and have your sweet wife blow into it :)

    Cheers

    in reply to: Interlock Device Test Fail #176596806
    TangoCharly69
    Participant

    DBlock2400,

    It depends on your PO and also depends if they would have gotten the info on your violation.
    He/She might think that you are being very honest and upfront and give you extra credit or they may not.

    Best course of action would be to speak to a lawyer if you have one.
    Otherwise just wait it out. I know it’s not very easy but just go with the flow and see what happens.

    Also just make sure you don’t get any more violations. Use a personal breathalyser.

    Btw does your probabtion state zero tolerence ie are you required to totally abstain from alcohol and drugs?

    Cheers

    in reply to: Drinking & Starting car (California) #176596802
    TangoCharly69
    Participant

    A small correction in my calculation.
    The divisor is 1000 not 100

    BAC = NumberOfDrinks x 20
    BAC Burned = NumberOfHours x 15
    Net BAC = (BAC – BAC Burned)/100
    Net BAC = (BAC – BAC Burned)/1000

    eg: I start drinking at 8 pm, stop at 11 pm, and drink 6 beers (or vodka shots or whisky pegs).
    In this case my BAC at 6 am next day morning will be
    BAC = 6 x 20 = 120
    BAC Burned = 10 x 15 = 150 (since 10 hrs have passed between 8 pm in the night to 6 am in the next morning)
    Net BAC = (120 – 150)/100 = -30/100 = -0.03
    Net BAC = (120 – 150)/1000 = -30/1000 = -0.03

    in reply to: Drinking & Starting car (California) #176596800
    TangoCharly69
    Participant

    The law does not say ‘Dont Drink’, it says ‘Dont Drink & Drive’

    Having an IID in the car does not mean you stop drinking.
    Just like getting into an accident does not mean you stop driving.
    You just have to be more planned.

    Like Bliddy Boh said, you need to understand the BAC math.
    It’s very simple math (pls note: these calculations rough and varies based on weight, sex and metabolism)

    BAC = NumberOfDrinks x 20
    BAC Burned = NumberOfHours x 15
    Net BAC = (BAC – BAC Burned)/100

    eg: I start drinking at 8 pm, stop at 11 pm, and drink 6 beers (or vodka shots or whisky pegs).
    In this case my BAC at 6 am next day morning will be
    BAC = 6 x 20 = 120
    BAC Burned = 10 x 15 = 150 (since 10 hrs have passed between 8 pm in the night to 6 am in the next morning)
    Net BAC = (120 – 150)/100 = -30/100 = -0.03
    Net BAC cannot be negative, hence your Net BAC is 0. Congrats.

    Buy a breathalyser, it costs around $100.
    Do the above excercise ie drinking in the night, calculating your BAC in the morning and double checking it on your breathalyser.
    You do it 5-8 times, you’ll understand how much you deviate from the above calculations.
    Once you are able to figure it out, go have a party (keeping the calculations in mind)

    Agreed that the interlock is there to protect you and others from you, but you can’t let a machine tell you how to live your life.
    You need to take control of your life.

    Cheers

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