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    In Ontario Canada, recently there have been laws enacted barring the use of handheld devices while driving. For example, texting or talking with a cellphone. In other words it can be any handheld device which may cause a distraction and pose a danger on the road. Note the following rationale for including the Ignition Interlock Device. At present it has been included on the list of devices exempted i.e. police radios, cruiser computers etc.

    Sadly it is a misconception that the IID is used only to ensure the driver is sober enough to allow the engine of the automobile to be started. When the devices were first manufactured they actually were geared to this end. When it was discovered that upon occasion drivers who had been drinking got a friend to perform the test for them, the manufacturer built into the machine a process referred to as the Random Rolling Retest,

    At random intervals while the car is being driven, the driver will be asked by the machine to provide a breath sample. Within a specified interval of time the breath sample must be provided. If it is not, the horn begins to sound off and the lights begin to flash continuously until the automobile is brought to a complete stop.

    Should you be in a situation which requires your undivided attention while driving, the manufacturer claims you will have enough time to either clear the scene or pull off the road to a stop.. The time frame for this is not given in the instructional video. Failure to provide a successful sample within a predetermined time will cause the horn to sound and the lights to flash continuously until the car is brought to a complete stop and the ignition turned off. A warning to pull off the road will also be provided should you fail the breath test or fail to complete the test within the time limits allowed by the machine. For example, should you drop the device onto the floor of the car and be unable to safely recover it in time, the results are inescapable.

    So what repercussions may result from using this device in a rolling retest?:

    The sequence of events involved not only in manipulating the device but providing the correct steps in the right sequence to provide a breath sample, employ a considerable mental and physical effort when blowing into the handheld monitor and driving in heavy traffic. Taken together, all at the same time, this will result in an unacceptable distraction possibly further resulting in an accident.
    The time frame for providing a sample for the rolling retest can result in considerable driver distraction if he/she is hemmed in, in heavy traffic and attempting to exit a busy freeway. Stress levels may rise unacceptably. Improper lane changes and the like can be extremely hazardous. This has the potential to cause an accident.
    If a driver fails a rolling retest (for a reason which may be totally unrelated to a sample failure) the resulting cacophony of horn blaring and lights flashing almost surely will cause increased stress levels and distraction inside the vehicle for both driver and passenger(s) and for other drivers in the vicinity. This has the potential to result in an accident.

    (This might be dated but it would seem that the study was a valid one and should hold true for today). “Dramatic findings in a recently released study by the California Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) show that interlock devices had no statistically significant effect in preventing subsequent drunk driving convictions, but they increase their users’ general crash risk by up to 130%”.

    Just as a further note an additional study was done in 2004 by the California Dept. of Motor Vehicles. Please note the quote from the conclusion section of that study:

    September 2004

    “The relationship between IIDs and crashes changes when crashes are examined for
    offenders who installed an interlock device. Surprisingly, the two analyses that
    examined this both showed that the risk of crashes was higher for offenders installing
    an interlock.”

    One other point of note is that upon attempting to follow past research paths the author has noted that since posting the original website from which this blog is derived, some manufacturers seem to have either played down or removed altogether references to the consequences of either failing or missing a Random Rolling Retest. Also I have checked extensively. Manufacturers vary slightly in vehicle reactions to failed random rolling retests but basically most are as described above. I have searched extensively for information on how the random rolling retest works in Ontario. I have not been successful. Dare we say this is a deliberate attempt to mask the truth. What do you think?
    In some jurisdictions, the province of Ontario, for example, a new law has come into effect barring the use of handheld devices while driving. This law seems to be specifically geared towards the use of cell phones but is broad enough to include many other activities. It would seem to be hypocritical, that in the list of devices arbitrarily decided to be exempted by the Dept. Of Transportation that the IID be included.

    You can put away a cell phone in a heartbeat. You cannot ignore the IID in a Random Rolling Retest.

    In the same vein, the IID is mandated for DUI convicted drivers who wish to or have an urgent need to return to driving possibly, for example, for maintaining one’s career. The penalties for dui are extremely harsh under the guise of re-education. (Is this a valid judgement call? – Perhaps the only one truly qualified to put forth a valid judgement call is the founder of MADD, Candy Lightner. With the extremes of legislation subsequently fomented under the powerful lobbying efforts of MADD she quit in disgust claiming that she had never intended the movement to go so far. At this point in time she has disavowed any connection to this organization as it is today.)

    Personally this author does not wish to be driving in the vicinity of any driver required to take a Random Rolling Retest in heavy traffic

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    I couldn’t have said it better! The complaints are about the interlock device, not the fact that those who have them were convicted of at least one DUI! It is nothing but a money pit for yet another corporate jerk to benefit off of the poor.

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    For anyone who says you can pull over anytime you want, I give you Wisconsin:

    It’s simply not a safe device.

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    I know this is an older post but I wanted to say this is an excellent post. Very well put, and I have an example of this speaking truth. When I first got this machine put on my car I was very nervous about it. I’ve known people that have had problems with them before through my profession. I was so conscientious that I would keep my eye on it just to make sure that I wasn’t going to miss a second before making sure that a rolling test has creeped upon me. Well, one day, it was just a long, long day at work, and I was finally driving home after 14 hours of labor. I had a new cd and decided to put it in. Yes, I do admit, I did make the mistake of turning a song I liked up a little too loud. It was loud enough for me to miss the warning giving to me about a rolling test. I’m close to my house and the next thing I knew, lights were flashing, sirens were wailing, and my horn was going. Well, I was tired, maybe a little overworked, hence the loud music. I was trying to keep myself perky. Well, that definitely perked me up when all that flashing light and random alien sounds just blared from sources unknown. It was enough to make me jump. I went partially off the road and luckily I’m a decent driver so I was able to correct myself and my car before it went too badly. I’m just happy there was noone coming in the oncoming lane because I may have accidently hit that person, or possibly startled that person into making a mistake themselves. I stopped and turned my car off, did my test, and went on home, but it made me realize there’s a volume limit on my cd player now. Exceed and it may cost you money, your car, and or, possibly your life. That wasn’t all though. I realized that day how dangerous this contraption actually was. It was nothing to be taken lightly in any way. I’ve never texted and drove in my life. I’ve rode in a car with people that have, and I had to comment, that just isn’t smart or safe in any way. The only reason I drive using a handheld device now is my government tells me I have to.

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